He was on the short list in 2000, but passed over because of opposition from social conservatives. Will 2008 be Tom Ridge’s year? Or is the former Pennsylvania governor destined to be passed over again?Political insiders close to John McCain said the presumptive Republican presidential nominee would like to pick Ridge — his friend, national co-chairman of his campaign and a fellow Vietnam veteran — to be his vice presidential running mate.
Analysts and party insiders said Ridge would almost certainly guarantee a victory in Pennsylvania, which is viewed as a must-win state for McCain.



oh my, a definite purple
oh my, a definite purple alert!
McCain's chances in Pa are slim
Pennsylvania is now decided by the eastern part of the state and McCain is going to lose there by a very wide margin. Obama will take Philadelphia county by more than Gore or Kerry won in 2000 and 2004.
Tom Ridge, much like McCain, is passe’. The social conservatives already are lukewarm about McCain and don’t like Ridge. He needs them a whole lot more than this state.
pd
Take all the time you’d
Take all the time you’d like discussing the merits of one VP choice over another, but at the end of the day Obama defeats McCain in PA hands down.
I hope you are right!
For the good of this nation, I hope you are right. The nation cannot afford four more years of Bush which McCain represents.
What if the Republicans had
What if the Republicans had an equally energizing candidate – would anyone on here consider voting for a Republican?
How much of the last eight years is an indictment of the candidates (Bush,Cheney); how much responsibility goes to the Republican ideology?
Campaigning Orange Alerts
Would be hilarious! This would be on The Daily Show every night. I still laugh at how ridiculous Ridge was in that role.
I like Tom Ridge, but
I like Tom Ridge, a lot. I wish that he were the candidate for President, instead of McCain. Or I wish that he were the candidate for VP with Obama (I know, two Harvard grads on the same ticket wouldn’t fly). But I think that McCain’s campaign already is toast, and that no VP nominee can change that. It is a shame that McCain was not the Republican nominee 8 years ago (I am proud to have supported McCain against the fool now in the White House), and it is more of a shame the the John McCain running today is not the same independent thinker and iconoclast whom I supported 8 years ago.
It’s time for a change, and it is time to impose some accountability on the Republicans for this disastrous administration.
It’s interesting to watch
It’s interesting to watch the change McCain is going through as his campaign moves on. He was for years a Leftist Republican and drew real praise from both Democrats and Republicans…real Dems and Reps…not politicians. Most Americans are for the most part moderate and stay in the middle of the road regardless of party, since both parties offer good things for everybody. This made McCain a standout in the political world for most of his career. This support of Bush and this juvenile administration that McCain now defends so strongly is truly disappointing. What a crushing blow it will be to America if McCain is successful and continues the embarrassing Bush policies.
JP
Never a "leftist Republican"
McCain has never been a leftist Republican. Occassionally he showed some independent spirit, but rarely broke with his conservative brethren when push came to shove. Much like Specter, he talks an idependent, even liberal, game, but he walks to neo-con and conservative walk.
pd
Tom Ridge is No Specter
I would never lump Tom Ridge with Arlen Specter. Tom Ridge is a person of integrity whose interest always has extended to the greater good instead of a strictly personal agenda. Arlen Specter is a person who completely lacks integrity and whose interests are limited to his personal agenda. Tom Ridge always has been consistent in his views, even when they have not coincided with his political self-interest. Arlen Specter’s views for the most part shift with the political wind, which is how he could torch Robert Bork yet support Clarence Thomas—there was no intellectually honest way to do that, but Specter did what was good for Specter.
...nor is McCain
I see that I misread the note to which I was replying. Anonymous did not compare Tom Ridge to Specter, but instead compared McCain to Specter.
I still disagree with the comparison. John McCain has taken principled stands on issues (with some of which I strongly disagree) and he has served and continues to serve his country. Specter’s stands have been unprincipled (even where I agree) and Specter serves only Specter.
It would be difficult to find a more selfless person than John McCain in the Senate. Specter probably is the most self-centered Senator, and in that body that is quite a status, but not one to be proud of.
I suppose my labeling of
I suppose my labeling of McCain as a “leftist Republican” was in very relative terms. As a life long Liberal and forever will be, I tend to see upper level Republicans as extreme Conservatives and very much to the right of center. I see McCain as left of extreme…or a “leftist Republican”. Does that make any sense?
A sideline comment…With Obama skipping the visit to the troops, the mudslinging is going to get heavy. McCain will never let this slip by and the Old Republican Guard will surely start pushing for a cut throat campaign by McCain.
JP
Mudslinging
JP, I think there are very few, if any, liberal Republicans left in the GOP. You have a fair point that occassionally McCain is on the “left” of his party, but we should all understand just how far right that still is. In today’s GOP, Nixon would be a wild-eyed liberal radical.
As for the mudslinging, it doesn’t matter what Obama does or doesn’t do, he will be smeared with the same mud the GOP always uses. To me, respect the job the GIs do, but there’s no reason to regard them as anything more than professionals doing the jobs they signed up for. Candidates don’t have to pander to them.
pd
Ridge is old news...
And being on the ticket here won’t change McCain’s chances. People liked Ridge because he seemed to be a likable guy (and was when I met him) but his time as the czar of the color-coded terror alerts really hurt his credibility.
In addition, adding another “old white guy” to the ticket just isn’t going to cut it this time…
Pilt
Neither Ridge nor McCain
Neither Ridge nor McCain cares much about anything but being important.
Mr. Ridge, because of his pro-abortion views, was not even allowed to take Communion in his own diocese. Sacrificing both the teachings of his own Church, and human lives, for political expediency turns off many faithful believers.
Ridge and the Veepstakes
First, while I didn’t always agree with some of his calls and stances as either a member of Congress or governor, I like Tom Ridge and feel that he had a largely successful political career. Note the word ‘had’. Aside from Joe Lieberman, the one other individual John McCain is reportedly itching to put on the GOP ticket is Ridge. I understand why, but I don’t understand why the McCain camp figures their strategy would work. Ridge was a terrific campaigner who was able to “connect” with voters of all demographics, but especially the much-analyzed “Reagan” Dem voters so critical to GOP electoral fortunes here in Pennsylvania. Like McCain, Ridge is a Vietnam vet, which would theoretically add more stature to the GOP ticket. As a former member of Congress and two-term governor, Ridge would also add more experience to the ticket. However, the downsides to adding Ridge outweigh the pluses, at least for me. His stint as the first Homeland Security czar, well, didn’t exactly go splendidly. As much experience and regional competitiveness that Ridge may deliver for McCain, some voters might not be able to get the infamous “color-codes” out of their heads when listening to Ridge, and the last thing anybody wants from their new executive team is the prospect of another federal debacle like that. For his running mate, McCain needs someone that neutralizes his still-noticeable rifts with the right, not someone who accentuates them. As a social liberal, Ridge would do nothing to “fire up the base”, as the phrase goes. In fact, he’d give them all the more reason to sit on their hands come Election Day. All things equal, while Ridge might help pick up votes in some suburban areas, any vote gained there would probably be lost elsewhere. Lastly, while he experienced success in the past, Ridge ran his last campaign nearly 10 years ago. Some say good politicians never truly lose their political instincts, but as the underdog in this race, McCain can’t take a chance on someone who has been on the bench for so long. Speaking as a conservative, I’d argue that McCain’s criteria for VP should be threefold:
1) They should exist outside the Washington Beltway. With Obama positioning himself as the “outsider” in the race, McCain needs to balance this largely unfounded criticism (nobody has pushed harder to reform the way Washington does business than McCain) by selecting a governor, preferably from a battleground or Dem-leaning state.
2) They should be younger (preferably substantially younger) than McCain. ‘Nuff said there.
3) They should be someone who has shown the ability to reach across the aisle to Dems while still maintaining good relations with the conservative base (sometimes not the easiest balancing act). They should have a substantial record of accomplishment as governor (strengthening McCain’s experience argument) and have the personality traits to contrast with McCain’s sometimes gruff demeanor. They should also have the ability to connect with the blue-collar voters McCain is aiming for in talking up Ridge.
In my mind, that leaves two names for McCain to chose from: former Arkansas governor Mike Huckabee and Minnesota governor Tim Pawlenty.
Cheers.
Why bother
McCain is an oldman and an old republican at that. His ideals, like all of the the republican ideals, are outdated and only serve the purpose of the wealthiest americans. Anyone over 50, of which I am one, is now entering the twilight years. It is time to let the next generation choose a president with a fresh perspective. I don’t believe for a minute that Obama is the next JFK or is even the perfect choice. He is however, not a republican. As for the McCain age question,I do know that after two terms of Ronald Reagan, the last thing this country needs is another doddering old fool playing president. As for the republican aspect, well after two terms of GW…I mean really. The man is an ass. He has no business being president of a little league, let alone our country. Sure, I know he is just the figurehead put in place by the real power mongers, but damn it man, he has the title and he represents this nation on the world stage. He is perceived as an unqualified fool and the world takes that view of our nation. The republicans made themselves very wealthy over these past eight years, all at the expense of the middle and lower classes. A John McCain administration will only be more of the same. As for the “why bother,” that’s for the Tom Ridge part of this. He was a lousy governor and made an ass of himself in that homeland role. So why bother saying anything more about him.
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