Rep. Patrick J. Murphy (D-Pa.) has been one of the most high-profile freshman members of Congress in his first term.(via AAJ)As one of Barack Obama’s most visible supporters in Pennsylvania, he routinely appears as a surrogate to tout Obama’s candidacy. And because he is the only Iraq war veteran serving in Congress, Democrats have turned to Murphy as someone with the credibility to speak out against the war.
But while Murphy has emerged as a rising star in Democratic circles, Republicans have quietly recruited a candidate with an equally compelling story who is now on pace to raise the amount of money necessary to seriously contest the suburban Philadelphia seat. And the Iraq war — a topic that seemed to propel Murphy to his 2006 win — also will be the key issue for his challenger.
Tom Manion, a retired Marine colonel, is running uncontested for the Republican nomination to challenge Murphy.The pharmaceutical executive decided to run as a way of honoring his son, Marine 1st Lt. Travis Manion, who was killed by a sniper last April during his second tour of duty in Iraq.



Logic of the Iraq war proponents
I’ll never understand the logic of the people who want to stay in Iraq because their son or daughter or nephew or niece or grandchild was killed and now others should lose their kids so that no one “died in vain”.
pd
If you can't understand
why someone doesn’t want their child to die in vain, then you are a complete and utter moron.
No desire to see more Americans die
I wonder if you’ve ever looked at a group of kids and wondered who, out of sincerer patriotism or who wants money for college or career training, will join the military, be shipped out to Iraq and be maimed for life or die in an utterly senseless war? I have and it’s not a pleasant thing to contemplate.
pd
No one has died in vain in
No one has died in vain in Iraq or any war. The reasons they fought were usually lost to them. They were simply doing what they were ordered to do. Their deaths over a thousand years have shown us how terrible war is. But what have we learned? Nothing at all…Nothing at all.
JP
I guess you have to define "in vain."
But we’ll have to wait for history to judge whether the Iraq war had any lasting value to humanity. At that point, we might be able to decide if the loss of life was “worth it” or was “in vain.”
But I agree with PD’s basic assumption; you don’t continue to toss bodies of young men and women into the maw of war just to justify and make whole the sacrifice of those who have come before and given their lives. It’s a classic case of “good money after bad.” With all endeavors, you reach a point where it simply makes no sense to continue.
Anon, by your logic, exactly when should be stop sending more and more people to Iraq? Explain to me when the war/occupation will be over? At what point will we be able to say, “This young solider didn’t die in vain!”
Piltdown Man
all soldiers die in
all soldiers die in vain-nothing has ever been fixed by war-problems are just pushed into new shapes by the application of violence
I guess you think that
I guess you think that soldiers that fought during WW2 died in vain to? War is ugly but sometimes needed. I guess maybe we should of let Hitler kill all the Jews in Europe?? Or have the kurds in Iraq keep getting gassed by Sadaam and keep letting him, rape, kill, and mame his people. If what we did was in vain in those wars then you have your liberal blinders on and need them taken off to see the REAL world. Talking to these to dictators would of NEVER worked. So open your eyes to what is REALLY happening around the world. Tell a dead soldiers mother her son or daughter died in vain and watch the response you will get!!
Key to his candidacy is pharmaceutical executive
That makes him a perfect corporate-protection racket republican candidate. His stance on the Iraq war seems to be a contradiction –
“I do want to end the war in Iraq as soon as possible,” Manion said.
“Later he said that “it’s pretty evident that the surge is working and we need to see that through.”
As for the sad death of his son, “. . .an inspiring story of sacrifice,” said National Republican Congressional Committee spokesman Ken Spain. So the NRCC thinks thats a campaign strategy? Ugh!!
I don’t know the man, so
I don’t know the man, so I hate to judge him, but I’m a bit digusted, a little curious, more than a little angry that an ex-Marine would use his late son as a stepping tombstone, if you will, to push his way into politics. Perhaps he can’t shake that Marine temperment that when you are given a mission you carry it out without thought of right or wrong…it’s not your job to decide…just do your job, do it well and leave no one behind. It would appear as though the NRCC has given Manion a mission and he will carry it out without thought of right or wrong…even if it comes to using his son’s unselfish sacrifice to do it.
JP
Manion and His Motives
Being from the western portion of the state, I can say that I’ve never met Tom Manion nor am I all that familiar with his bid for Congress. However, speaking in generalities, it seems that criticism of him by many on this thread stem not from the man himself, but his motivations for running. He says he is running as a means of honoring his son, a Marine who was killed in Iraq last year. Why is this motivation such a problem for some? I can think of at least a dozen motivations that some give for pursuing public office that could be seen as much more cynical or transparent than the reasons given by Tom Manion. I’m not so naive as to believe every word that comes out of a politician’s (or potential politician’s) mouth, but I don’t believe we have any sound reason to question Mr. Manion’s motives at this point. If you’re opposed to Manion on policy grounds, no problem. Make your argument against the man there. However, don’t take aim at his heart. There is already too much cynicism in politics. Let’s not inject more of it into yet another race when we really don’t have a good reason to.
Tom Manion
Thank you for not judging someone you do not know. I do know Tom, and I beleive that he is a good man with good moral character. I do not pretend to know what is in his heart, or exactly why he has agreed to run for office, but I do believe that the comment of “using his son as a stepping stone” is way off base, and heartless. I believe that Tom Manion is a Patriot and a man who is willing to sacrifice to serve his country. If anything, our incumbent Congressman, Patrick Murphy, has used his very limited military “experience” as the stepping stone to his office. Perhaps Tom believes that our mission in Iraq is correct, even if entry was made without all of the facts. Saddam was a terrorist, a mass murderer and vowed to attack the U.S.A. So did we do wrong to stop his killings against Iraqi citizens? Did we do wrong to take the first action against an avowed terrorist? Or should we have waited until we actually had another 9-1-1? I think not.
It would be an absolute disservice to the many young Americans who served with honor – to now cut and run, because it is politically popular to do so. Not because many have already died there. But because their mission was right, and it still is, and to leave it half finished WOULD mean they died in vain.
I for one respect Tom Manion, not for his political work, but for his lifes work. I also believe that with his combination of public and private sector service and experience, he is considerably more qualified than our incumbent congressman.
I hope he represents me in congress after teh next election.
Bob Bender
Chalfont, PA.
I just can’t agree with
I just can’t agree with either of you. Perhaps it is my disgust with this administration and its misguided agenda that continues to cost the precious lives of young men and women. The politics of this country is why these kids are dying…for no other reason than politics. Tom Manion’s son paid the ultimate price…it’s time to let him leave politics behind. Tom Manion, I wish you well in your run for office, but honor your son by leaving him out of your politics. He deserves better.
JP
HONOR
To question this man’s honor, that has served his country for so many years and has lost his son in service to his country…How can you explain HONOR or service to someone like that? I am a veteran of both Iraq and Afghanistan, in addition to the Balkans, Kuwait, and the Cold War. The current war in Iraq is just an extension of Operation Desert Storm. Saddam signed a Cease Fire Agreement with the Coalition Forces that he continuously violated. If we did not stand by our word that we would enforce that agreement, we would have bigger problems. Matter of fact, this war would have never happened, if the UN and the Clinton Administration took a stronger stance. In the end, Saddam thought the U.S. was a paper tiger. If terrorists think of us as paper tigers or cowards that are quick to cut and run, then we will forever be victims of terrorism because it WORKS. When we cease being the Home of the Brave, we will soon cease to be AMERICA.
I made no comment or
I made no comment or criticism towards Tom Manion the soldier. The comment was directed to Tom Manion the politician. There is a world of difference.
Point Taken
Your service to your country is greatly appreciated. The UN and the Clinton administration were wise not to rush into a war without a properly executed plan. The situation we are now facing is a result of poor leadership and poor planning. Now what? Saddam was captured and executed, and the terrorists are still there. Should we stay in Iraq until all the terrorists are killed or captured? How many are there? How exactly will that be accomplished? How many lives? How many years? How much will it cost? All questions you and your president cannot answer.
IRAQ
Iraq is a complex situation. AQI or Al Queda in Iraq has basically lost the war. They had control of Al Anbar in western Iraq a couple years ago. The Marines and some U.S. Army units fought hard there, but AQI basically caused their own defeat by using tactics that pissed off the locals. Now the LNs or Local Nationals have stopped fighting the Americans and turned their guns on AQI. AQI is still fighting, but they are almost defeated. Iraqi forces will require some support to continue operations. Iraq is still forming an air force. We will need to provide airpower for some time, but it does not cost us much in lives and is costing us less than enforcing the old No Fly zones in Iraq. AQ forces will fight us in Iraq or Afghanistan. Iraq is an .easier logistical target. When Iraq winds down…Afghanistan will heat up. But, a defeat of AQ in Iraq will hurt their cause. A victory will embolden them. This might be a war that some americans may want to run from, but AQ won’t quit. Terrorism will continue, but state sponsored terrorism can not be tolerated. Well funded terrorism will result in large U.S. casualties here at home. I would rather fight over there. We are not suffering the casualties that we suffered in WWI, WWII, Korea, or Vietnam. There is no draft. But, again…terrorism works against people that are easily terrified.
JW
Now that Mr. Manion is
Now that Mr. Manion is running for office, I wonder how he feels about people recieving free money from charities. Charities that in turn hide the free money under administrative expenses?
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